Curse

Apple · Jan 31, 2007, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Rits suck. Borked class in my opinion : they gimp your own team AND the opposing team's damage so much in gvg that they make games last way too long and promote defensive crappy builds that are the reason people quit tombs years ago.
THAT is why factions sucks.
Also, assassins (for a long time) required every single build to have twisting fangs, which limited them to few (albeit enjoyable) combos.

divinechancellor · Jan 31, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Alriiight my anti factions list:
-area locking. I got factions before prophecies, so i was used to it
-wajjun bazzar maze. wasnt that bad, but kinda annoying
-not many people in high level areas like... unwaking waters?

10,000 faction wasnt that bad for me, because it introduced me to pvp (yea intresting, huh. Forced me to try something new (AB, AVA whatever you call it))
Cinematics? The little boy in minister cho's estate, and Danika. MUST KILL,,, ANNOYING VOICES
But factions is still my favorite. 5/7 characters came from cantha. Because its fast. and they look all asian. that too.

Arcador · Jan 31, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12

The only thing I don't like is the voice acting, the cut scenes, and the faction grinding for controlling a place....and the quests go to A, return to B, go to A, return to B.

SirShadowrunner · Jan 31, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Coming from a Anti-running pve player :

1. The Assassin hate was bad.
2. Timed missions were a pain, my reason for not trying to get protector
title
3. The 10k faction req. was a big hurdle for those wanting to complete
both sides of the game with all there toons (7 of them).
4. The Dredge, I thought the Dredge were out of place in the Echovald
forest, they went from SF to the forest ?????

But I would like to say, that after completeing Factions a couple of times,
some of the missions I hated turned into ones I loved, like VS, just a blast
to play with an MM.
Also the triple drop weekend was great, I used it to cap every single elite
skill in Faction on my Assassin, at lvl-4 skill hunter now, yesssss........and
managed to get a few greens along way to....

Lonesamurai · Jan 31, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by SirShadowrunner

3. The 10k faction req. was a big hurdle for those wanting to complete both sides of the game with all there toons (7 of them).

Nah, I liked it, especially as the faction was account wide, get the 10k once, get all characters into HzH

Then get 10k Luxon, get all characters into Cavalon, job done

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Originally Posted by SirShadowrunner

4. The Dredge, I thought the Dredge were out of place in the Echovald forest, they went from SF to the forest ?????

Heh, but did you read the story of how they got there? Tunneled under the sea, honestly, I lol'd my ass off

Kid Divinity · Jan 31, 2007, 06:05 PM // 18:05

The city is my only complaint. Yes, Ascalon is awful and unenjoyable. But, where you're done, you're done. The only reason to go back was for a single titan quest WAY later. Kaineng City was just wrong. A mission or two? Fine. But, the fedex-ing wouldve been much more tolerable in any of the other areas. They really shouldve added more to Echovald and the Jade sea. Those were beautiful zones and we didnt need to spend nearly enough time there.

Aside from that. I loved everything... Even Vizunah. Take a decked out team, on your side, with Dual MMs and a rit or two and the other side barely matters. Same goes for Unwaking Waters. MM + Dedicated, Dragon-Interrupting ranger = Punch and Pie. Vive La Resistance!

ValaOfTheFens · Jan 31, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

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Originally Posted by Kid Divinity

Aside from that. I loved everything... Even Vizunah. Take a decked out team, on your side, with Dual MMs and a rit or two and the other side barely matters. Same goes for Unwaking Waters. MM + Dedicated, Dragon-Interrupting ranger = Punch and Pie. Vive La Resistance!

Vizunah Square is a nightmare if you're not in a guild and not at lv20. Heck, when I got to lv20 no one wanted to be on my team because I didn't have Animate Flesh Golem. Which makes sense you can't get to Ghial without beating Vizunah Square! The only reason I was able to pass it was because the other team was prepared. *lol* I had a weird Curse build with Animate Bone Minions and Well of Blood added on.

Kuldebar Valiturus · May 05, 2007, 04:23 AM // 04:23

I like Factions because it is different. I am beginning to appreciate the faster pace of the campaign and prefer my starter characters to start in Cantha.

After my chars leave the starter isle, I run them to Nightfall to grab the Heroes and then pick up the story in Kaineng City. Factions + Heroes = fun.

applejacks · May 05, 2007, 04:26 AM // 04:26

I never understood it myself. Factions was always my favorite....

Alleji · May 05, 2007, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Why do I hate factions? 2 reasons:

1. Locked gates
2. Kaineng City

Of course, the two reasons compound each other. I hate the setting of Kaineng City... the goddamn severs, the stupid exploding afflicted, more goddamn severs, etc, etc. I have absolutely no interest in playing through it and it simply disgusts me. Now, that wouldn't be a problem if I could just get a run from the marketplace to Cavalon/House Zu Heltzer, or even Maatu Keep. But I can't. I need to do 20 quests and 5 missions I don't give a shit about because some no-name guard won't let me through a gate.

I play the characters that have already gone through the drudgery of the city in the parts of the game that I like, but there's no way I will ever take another one through Kaineng, or get vanquisher/guardian of Cantha simply because I don't want to go back there.

cleo is life · May 05, 2007, 05:34 AM // 05:34

i like factions. i start most of my characters in factions. i love the armr, and Rtiualists rock my sockcs in factions. but the change from shing jeas lvl 10-14's to kainengs lvl 20-24's without warning annoys me -.-

with love, cleo

RSGashapon · May 05, 2007, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Cantha has been, and always will be, my favorite of the three continents just because nearly everyone else hates Factions and it pisses them off.

Zaganher Deathbane · May 05, 2007, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by Kuldebar Valiturus

I like Factions because it is different. I am beginning to appreciate the faster pace of the campaign and prefer my starter characters to start in Cantha.

After my chars leave the starter isle, I run them to Nightfall to grab the Heroes and then pick up the story in Kaineng City. Factions + Heroes = fun.

I agree 100% with Kuldebar here. I usually make a new char especially with a core class in Factions, cap all the skills there, go to NF cap skills there and prophecies and cap skills there. For me Factions is the most challenging among the 3 campaigns and it is my favorite chapter

Sol Deathgard · May 05, 2007, 06:32 AM // 06:32

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Originally Posted by SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Why does everyone hate factions!? I mean its easy leveling boo-hoo. Its cool how luxon/kurzick come [B]together[B] towords end its great story line, Tons of missions and quests!! I mean yes its un-runable buts thats good so your not in harvest temple and theres a lvl 4 mesmer there saying DANCING NAKED FOR TIPS! Personally i think all the GW is good Prohphcies being first factions second and nightfall last its like votes of 3-2 4/5-2 3/5 ITS RETARTED HOW YOU HATE FACTIONS I LOVE IT! can someone explain to me why everyone hates factions?

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Spirit Of The Sea

Personally, I like Factions, but of the 3 campains, it is the last on my list. Not because of the story (although there was alot that wasn't answered) not because you can't run it (I loved that) but because really, there wasn't as much to do after you beat it as in Prophocies & NF.

Edge Martinez · May 05, 2007, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Looking back on it, Prophecies is still my favorite because of the variety. Factions is a distant second. I hated the faction grind part. Nightfall started off as possibly becoming my favorite chapter, but once you hit the desert, it became my least favorite one very fast. But I do enjoy all 3 of them. Prophecies has the best replayability. Factions is the best place to start a toon. Nightfall gave us some nice PvE skills.

lyra_song · May 05, 2007, 06:58 AM // 06:58

Once you enter get out of the city into Pongmei valley, its all good. ^^

But ya...the voice acting sucked

XvArchonvX · May 05, 2007, 06:59 AM // 06:59

Personally I just never liked the style of Factions. Also, introducing a profession like the Assassin into a chapter where you hit tons of exploding monsters that come in ridiculously big mobs was something bad waiting to happen. If assassins had been introduced in a chapter where skills like Moebius Strike were capped earlier and enemies were smart creatures that came in smaller groups, then I think the profession would be looked upon much differently. Afflicted Soul Explosion was adjusted so that it wasn't such a ridiculous pain to assassins, but not until Nightfall had been out for a long time and Factions became much less occupied.

The chapter did have some good qualities to it that I do love such as Alliance Battles/Ft Aspenwood, as well as lots of various skills and armors, but I just can't put it in as high regards as Prophecies or even Nightfall...

Jakerius · May 05, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50

The start of Factions is fine, I love Shing Jea. Then you get shipped to this slum where all of a sudden you're getting spiked for 300 dmg each by the Afflicted, swarmed by ninja Am Fah, and worst of all, surrounded by the most god awful scenery ever. Not to mention it's confusing as hell.

As soon as you get out of the city though, Factions is not so bad. Not as good as Prophecies and Nightfall, but not terrible. I quit playing Factions a long time ago because of the horrible nerfs Anet made to the faction farming runs on the Luxon side. Also, the classes introduced in Factions are sub-par. Secondary professions at best.

Bride of the Atom · May 05, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07

So many things about Factions were frustrating to me. "Hey, I need to do a quest that takes me directly in front of this mission portal! Oh, gee! The gate is blocked! I guess I'll need to run 800 miles in the exact same direction all over again to unlock it at the *precise moment*, even though I've already been here three times!"

The bestiary also drove me crazy. There wasn't any variation in things at all. I realize that all three campaigns had things that reappeared, but Factions was ridiculous-- swarms and swarms of afflicted and naga and Am Fah and such over and over and over. These swarms were never, at any point in time, fun or engaging to do battle with. It just sucked.

I made it to Cavalon and only have about 900 faction left to grind for until the next mission, but I've pretty much lost whatever motivation I had to finish the campaign (which was primarily for 15k Canthan armor). I don't like most of the male elementalist armor in the game, but I think both normal and 15k Canthan look awesome. I guess this is a Factions bonus?

Oh, yes! So much of it was an awful, awful, horrible maze of ugly crap. Especially the "run-down slums" area outside of Kaineng Center. And if you do all of the quests, you are there forever. (I've only played one Factions character to any length. Can you tell?)

Anna Ryan · May 05, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36

I love Factions, the main reason why I done this continent completly in HM first ^^ Guardian and Canthan Vanquisher now.
About doing all the quests taking you a lifetime... Think again, Prophecies quests take a lifetime, not those of Factions

Most are damn easy and fun too ^^
But then again I like Asian settings, etc.
Now the locked gates, the best thing of Factions IMO. So you can't run, BOEHOE, no more Faction Droks-alike runs *whine whine* Maybe now if you start a new profession you'll PLAY it instead of rushing it to the end of the game and be a complete idiot without an inventive build or with only 8 skills unlocked...
I can see why you find it boring starting it all over again, but only if you do them 3 times a day... I mean, I've seen a lot of people who have a char lv 15, don't like it or are bored and make a new char, etc. Come on, how can you know you really like/hate a class without having it played through-out a campaign.
I for one don't listen to gossip like mesmers and assasins suck. I made me a mesmer and pwned through Tyria and Cantha with no prob. Working on my assasin atm so I'll see what that brings.